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Joel Armato
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2008, 02:26:38 PM » |
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I only had one repeat question (same content, just worded differently) and had a repeat of styles as well. But, as was said...it definitely highlighted what i did and did not know. Knowing that what i got wrong were all things that are very obvious, i feel good about just going and sharpening up on those few things.
I'd also be down for the list and I think Name, City, State/Country would show the diversity of the program and how far it's reaching.
I was surprised that less than 24 hours after the test was up i was the 127th (or 129th) certificate based on the few people posting to these forums.
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Don Ferris
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« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2008, 08:37:43 AM » |
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I think the idea of posting the name of people, their level of certification, some regional information and some sort of identifier would be good. My certificate had a number on it. I assume that is now my identifier in the program (similar to a BJCP #). If that is the case, I could use that to give to an an employer, who in turn, could independently verify that on the site.
I am a little hesitant, but not against, putting the "raw" email addresses on the site, because of bad experiences with spammers taking advantage of what is essentially a list of valid email addresses.
I like the idea of having the info linked to the profile, because it allows for a clean update process. Plus it puts the burden of accuracy on the individual not on the program.
Don
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2008, 10:13:30 PM » |
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Hi all,
Alex, I'm sorry to hear about the system crashing on you. Please let me know how that turned out if we haven't connected before you read this. I'll make see what we can do to make it up to you.
Second: the certificates started with #100 and I had several testers go through the system before taking it live, so the first "real" certificate a half dozen or so more than that.
I don't think we need to put email addresses up on the list of certificate holders. On the otherhand, I have been thinking about a job exchange where two-way communication would obviously be needed.
Thanks for the continuing feedback. I'll tweak those questions ID'd as problems.
R
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Ray Daniels
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David Little
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Craft beer anyone?
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2008, 11:22:42 AM » |
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Finally got around to taking my test and had zero problems. I finished the first pass in about half the allotted time but then had time to go back and review my answers. 30 minutes seemed just about right to me. I've got no problem having my name and geo facts posted in some list of certified individuals. In fact, I'd almost demand it once get to the Master level!  Thanks again Ray. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2008, 11:17:05 AM » |
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Thanks David.
And just a little follow-up on the mid-test crash that Alex's experienced. The exam system keeps a copy of every exam so that I can see the exact questions you got and what answers you gave. In Alex's case, all of the answers he had completed were saved in the system and we were able to recover those. We have now set it up so that he can go in and finish that same exam so that none of what he did before was lost.
I'm pleased that this first problem didn't result in a loss of exam data--that bodes well for all who plan to take the exam.
All for now.
Cheers,
Ray
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Rich Coffey
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2008, 02:42:26 PM » |
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Just wanted to add a little feedback on the CBS test. I did not experience any technical problems, and I felt the pool of questions was fair and balanced. I particularly liked that I could review the breakdown of questions at the end. I only missed a few, but it is still helpful to be able to see which ones, so I know what to read up on for the next exam. Overall, it was easier than I expected. It was actually kinda fun, especially with the snifter of Pike 5X Stout I drank while testing. Looking forward to the real task ahead, and a stiffer challenge, with the Cicerone Exam. Any chance of an exam taking place in the Pacific NW? |
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sam eddings
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2008, 01:39:19 PM » |
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First of all, thanks for getting this test going. It was fun.
No technical issues. My test seemed pretty well rounded. I didn't expect the questions regarding alcohol consumption/absorption, but those were good and relevant. Also, I disagree with the calls for a more difficult test. Since this is only for a beer server, it seems that any beer nerd with serving/brewing/etc experience should be able to pass. Obviously the next levels should be more rigorous, but for a 'server' status I think this is great.
You really should cut the time down to 15-20 minutes to deter cheating. I think it took me 11 minutes, and that left plenty of time to deliberate on several questions. Also, posting a list of certified people would be good. I'm willing to have City/State/Name posted. I'm looking forward to the next test. Thanks.
Sam
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Lee Jacobson
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2008, 01:06:33 AM » |
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Just took my exam. Went well. I had like a couple repeat-type questions. I didn't really study the Syllabus, though I wish I had--there were 2 or 3 questions on the proper way to wash a glass and I didn't get them right (apparently I treat my own glasses poorly!)
I had a couple comments on some of the questions which I found a little confusing. I've PMed the comments to you Ray. Thanks so much for creating this program, it's a wonderful thing. I really want to take the certified cicerone exam, but I don't work in the industry. I'm an avid homebrewer, director of the beer appreciation and homebrewing club at my school and I'm basically doing this for fun... Is there any way I could sit for the exam without dropping out of medical school to get a job in the industry?
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 09:19:09 AM » |
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Lee,
Will look forward to your comments on the exam.
Anyone can take the Certified Cicerone exam--those without industry experience just need an endorsement from an industry organization: retailer, wholesaler or brewer. I believe two of the seven who took the first Certified Cicerone exam were in that category.
Cheers,
Ray
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